Monday, March 16, 2020

Mameshiba no Taigun - 2ch Comments Part 2


I'm back with more comments from 2ch. These are from the 17th Mameshiba thread. Most of the comments revolve around the costume and the possibility of a new member.

964 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 00:35:36.47 ID:U1j0JE3xd.net[1/2]

My feeling after January's "WACK Nari no Koushien" is that people on the net are divided into either the "Mameshiba Faction" or "WACK Faction". Mameshiba is well known because they debuted on a TV Project. The other groups have grown steadily in popularity. At this point, there's a distinction between them. In addition, there was a confrontation between two MVs, the "Kuro-chan Version" and the "WACK Version" and the Kuro-chan version had 1 million more views.

965 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 00:46:09.31 ID:U1j0JE3xd.net[2/2]

Mameshiba had allot of fans until Kuro-chan was dismissed as Producer in December.

Early in January, the costume was changed to the black Yankee style one, and there were allot of complaints like "this is lame", "it doesn't suit them" and "we want Kuro-chan to return as Producer".

In February, after the confrontation between the Kuro-chan and WACK MVs, Kuro-chan's won and he became Mameshiba's Adviser.

To put it simply, Kuro-chan was dismissed as Producer and there was displeasure with the costume change. So Kuro-chan will return as Producer and his personal taste leans towards cute clothes and songs.

966 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 01:34:57.95 ID:y6lNj12K0.net[1/11]

Although Mameshiba is popular due to the effect of the TV Program, they lack a decisive hit (song),
so it's a plus that Kuro-chan has returned.

973 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 04:38:11.35 ID:lgJMs27G0.net[1/3]

Most of the new fans left because of the Sukeban costume.
Very few have come back after Kuro-chan's return.
It's difficult to recover what you've lost.

(*I'm not sure what they mean by "new fans". They could just mean that Mameshiba's fanbase is relatively new)

976 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (アウアウウー Sa2f-j6Zl):2020/03/01(日) 05:53:19 ID:jBBMFMA5a.net

I think most of them would have left even if they hadn't worn the Sukeban costumes.

979 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 07:04:01.54 ID:rsBuIe500.net[1/8]
>>965

It's the difference between the majority and the minority.
Most people just watch the TV Show.
While watching the show, I heard the reason why Kuro-chan dropped Kaede and thought it was a waste.
When the Jakegaii was announced on the TV Show, I thought it was good that Kaede returned.

I didn't watch the survival show, so I don't know the circumstances surrounding Kaede being eliminated and then brought back.

(*Definition of "Jakegaii" from the Japanese wikipedia:

"Jakegai is the purchase of media products such as record CDs, DVDs, and books, with no knowledge of the contents, and motivated by the fact that they received a good impression from the package design they saw at stores. Also buying a jacket.")

The minority takes the initiative to look and search around.
Since I was already familiar with the contents of the TV Show, I looked through all the channels for the first time to get better acquainted.

(*When they say "channels" they must mean 2ch, 5ch, etc.)

There were probably a decent amount of people who searched here already, but the majority just was the TV Show.
It may seem like a majority because the protests over the costume change happened so quickly,
but most people remained silent.

(*I think he means that fans who check online knew about the costume change before people who watched the TV Show did)

Even though the WACK version was denied, most people who saw the costumes for the first time in the Daijoubu Sunrise MV thought they were okay.

1009 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 12:08:09.41 ID:gMGLl2Y20.net[1/2]
>>985

WACK really wants to challenge the Aki-P system.
WACK is a small fish with ugly music and low sales.
The Aki-P system is all that sells in Japan.
In the end, WACK desperately wants to sell Mameshiba to another office.

(*They used the word "hataku" or "tataku" which means "to slap, strike, beat". For lack of a better word, I went with challenge)

1011 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 12:27:16.69 ID:gMGLl2Y20.net[2/2]
>>965

Only the costume design was a mistake.
They would have been accepted if they wore black gothic lolita costumes.
Even so, Antis would still have complained here and there.

1013 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 12:56:46.56 ID:rsBuIe500.net[5/8]

In the first place, the costume was already similar to Gothic Lolita.
There is no way to do it in that style.

1041 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 20:59:39.90 ID:ExzHOl7Kd.net

YouTube Live Distribution.
2 months have passed since their Debut CD.
Aika is a beginner.
The other members are comfortable because they've all had Idol activities in the past.
Even though it's only been 2 months, I think things have progressed smoothly.

Watching the live stream, Aika and Miyuki seem to enjoy each other.
I think it's good to have a fun atmosphere.

1050 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 1beb-V03r):2020/03/01(日) 22:51:42 ID:rsBuIe500.net[8/8]
>>1048

First of all, there are no new members.
At this time, there not adding a new member.

1051 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 :2020/03/01(日) 23:22:24.39 ID:othWx+mzd.net[1/2]

When adding a new member, it's necessary to consult with their Adviser, Kuro-chan.
When a group releases two CDs at the same time, there seems to be some expansion.
For example, competing for CD sales.
I've never heard of a group releasing two CDs at the same time.

1056 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (スプッッ Sd13-klgD):2020/03/02(月) 00:53:27 ID:q+sCkaO2d.net

The number of subscribers for Mameshiba's YouTube channel is 854,000.
The Release Event has been canceled this week and it's been changed to YouTube live distribution.
With the big announcement coming, I hope that by March 8th, they will have over 100k subscribers.

1069 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 1beb-tor7):2020/03/02(月) 11:54:45 ID:Rn8eGcgx0.net[2/7]
>>1068

I think it's better to stop thinking about new members.
If you increase the number of people, the assignment of solo parts will be busy and may become jumbled.
Line distribution is already congested in BiSH with 6 members.
If you want to focus on choruses like AKB, then that's different, but if you don't, then keep it the way it is.
And they never add a new member during the promotion period.
There's probably a likely candidate in the WACK trainee program.

1074 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 1beb-tor7):2020/03/02(月) 13:52:51 ID:Rn8eGcgx0.net[3/7]
>>1072

Won't they make a Horde?

(*The above comment is what the person below is responding to)

Isn't Horde just a name? It's not a promise.
If they really want to make a large group, it will end up as Mameshiba48 where the main chorus is decided by Aki-P, so let's not talk about that.
A large group is impossible with the way things are in WACK.

1078 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ササクッテロル Sp03-jvKQ):2020/03/02(月) 14:12:16 ID:bhfCuPAIp.net[2/2]

When I first saw the black costumes, I thought the WACK sensibility was strong.
However, I think it looks better once you get used to it.
Kuro-chan's weird lyrics are suited for WACK.
However, since everyone is wearing black, it might be good to put their member colors somewhere.
Maybe the lines on the sailor top.

1079 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 3a61-r+hr):2020/03/02(月) 14:15:43 ID:P+uDMG6w0.net[2/3]

Is there enough demand for an album or tour?
The new song just came out and the release event has been cancelled, so it might be too soon.
There might be new members, and I think they'll be announced at the exhibition after the training camp.

1080 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 1beb-tor7):2020/03/02(月) 14:22:14 ID:Rn8eGcgx0.net[4/7]
>>1076

There are limits to the solo part because it doesn't change.
Lets assume there are 48 members and you assign a solo part.
It's impossible. Even 6 members are too busy.

1088 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 1beb-tor7):2020/03/02(月) 15:07:52 ID:Rn8eGcgx0.net[5/7]
>>1083

I don't know which two, but are they the main chorus?
That's okay then.
In the chorus, individuality will die if it becomes like AKB.
Even 6 members are too busy for me.
If it can be done well with the current members, just do that.

>>1084

A 4 minute song is about 240 sec. In a group with 48 members, that's 5 sec. per member.
Considering the prelude, interlude, and time for the chorus, there's even less per member.

1091 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 3a61-r+hr):2020/03/02(月) 15:16:36 ID:P+uDMG6w0.net[3/3]
>>1088

There isn't a main chorus in WACK.
It's usually good to add new members.

In fact Bish got better after adding Ayuni. The same can be said when NOW was added to EMPiRE.

Why are you so adamant about denying new members.

1098 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (スップ Sd8a-drPS):2020/03/02(月) 15:37:14 ID:VWAyUvQBd.net[2/2]

There is absolutely no new member.

1100 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (ワッチョイ 637b-3RV9):2020/03/02(月) 15:44:04 ID:zFAe7VZY0.net

There will be no new member until the Training Camp ends.

1102 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (アウアウウー Sa2f-v0na):2020/03/02(月) 15:44:51 ID:lpOF06D6a.net[15/20]
>>1098

A member from WAgg will be added someday.

1103 :ファンクラブ会員番号774 (アウアウウー Sa2f-v0na):2020/03/02(月) 15:45:36 ID:lpOF06D6a.net[16/20]

As long as Kaede is there, everything will be fine.

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